Of all the pliers I've used, I hate these the most. Here's why: They are slippery, the paint is slick. The grip portion to squeeze is at a steep angle, and when you squeeze them, it gets more angled, so your hands are constantly slipping down, losing control. Most importantly, when you squeeze these, there's no control to the L/R movement of the jaws, so they constantly are so off center without lots of effort that they miss what you're trying to hold. Pointless. Ordering another kind and throwing these in the trash, they aren't even worth it as a backup.