I was genuinely sad about this product. The skin was super stiff so I couldn't work the hair up from being matted flat. The hair fibers were thin as well as sparse, the hair fiber length was short. If I weren't an experienced tyer I wouldn't have even been able to use either (I got two colors, both the same). If the patches I received were in store, no avid tyer would purchase them if he could see them for him/herself. I ended up throwing both patches out, a true one star.