If you haven't tried Palmer Chenille, you should. It is a terrific product and easy to use. It is a must to use under marabou when you are tying a streamer. This product will help keep the marabou from laying flat against the shank of the hook. You can also make a complete Game Changer with this material. The Palmer Chenille will allow you to trim and taper your fly to your specified body shape. This product is made on a thin string and has chenille only on one side of the core string. Very easy to palmer.