These feathers are perfect for wooly buggers and other like patterns. I bought three packets in black, brown and pink, and all the packets came with a decent amount of feathers. All of the packets were in good condition and none of the feathers were crinkled or torn. I would HIGHLY recommend the pink for palmering any egg sucking leech patterns for salmon. They also make for some good tails on Coho streamer patterns. All in all, I will be buying again.